Slow MacBook shutdown

am55555 · 13th July 2008, 16:50

Just bought a new MacBook (2.4Ghz) while in the US. Initial impressions having moved from the PC platform after nearly 20 years, not so impressive!

Anyways, it's taking nearly 140 seconds to shut down...how can I fix this? Apple is supposed to easy, so this should be done faster...

Magnus · 13th July 2008, 16:53

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Originally Posted by am55555

Just bought a new MacBook (2.4Ghz) while in the US. Initial impressions having moved from the PC platform after nearly 20 years, not so impressive!

Anyways, it's taking nearly 140 seconds to shut down...how can I fix this? Apple is supposed to easy, so this should be done faster...

Why is a slow shutdown a problem? With a MacBook you would just put it to sleep, not shut down, right? Anyway, since Leopard all my Macs are taking a long to shut down. I've not timed it compared to Tiger but I would bet it's a lot longer with Leopard.

BTW, welcome to the site

hanzo · 13th July 2008, 17:17

I've not experienced this, but then again I don't use shutdown ever.

If you are looking to turn the system completely "off" to conserve power, but want a "faster" shutdown, you may want to try changing the default sleep pattern to "deep sleep". This isn't an option readily available from any of the SysPrefs, but there is a handy widget to do it for you.

Deep Sleep

You can also change this behavior from Terminal, but this accomplishes the same thing (and is much easier).

Coming from a Windows background, Deep Sleep is reminiscent of Hibernate in the sense that it writes out the current state to hard disk. As such it takes a little bit longer than regular sleep, but I typically see it run for about 45 seconds. Booting back up alternates between faster than normal boot or longer than normal boot. Really depends on the systems state at shutdown.

Your Mileage May Vary, Caveat Emptor, Beware of Dog, etc.

Magnus · 13th July 2008, 18:13

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Originally Posted by am55555

Just bought a new MacBook (2.4Ghz) while in the US. Initial impressions having moved from the PC platform after nearly 20 years, not so impressive!

Apart from shutdown and email problems, what is it that is "not so impressive" compared to Windows?

fangpyre · 13th July 2008, 18:33

Oops...
I can hear footsteps coming this way.
Alot of them.

Magnus · 13th July 2008, 20:14

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Originally Posted by fangpyre

Oops...
I can hear footsteps coming this way.
Alot of them.

Well... it's always interesting to hear what "the other side" thinks

noixe · 13th July 2008, 20:15

umm, i duno wat ur@magnus, i've not experienced slowed shutdown on my blackbook (which was updated to leopard) OR my macbook air..; macbook air hardly takes 3 secs to shutdown, while the blackbook takes 7-8 secs. 140 secs is too mch :| take it to iStyle or sumthing am5555, they shud know sumthing about it

am55555 · 14th July 2008, 00:57

Isn't there any 'cleanup' software to check this out? I mean my MacBook is hardly 2 weeks old!

What's not so impressive - I guess I was expecting things to be super dooper when moving to a Mac. Yes, Expose is cool, but I guess I would rather have a Mac user tell me what they like and then I can discover those and hopefully other joys!

Don't get me wrong - I am not regretting it - it's just not been a WOW yet!

fangpyre · 14th July 2008, 09:33

Well if it is only 2 weeks old, there isn't anything to cleanup.
The impressive thing about Macs isn't what it does, but how it does everything.

Keep in mind there is a slight learning curve, so that will add to the frustration a bit.
But everybody here is here to help.

hanzo · 14th July 2008, 09:43

I think the "Wow" factor for me is just the amount of time I don't waste.

I spend a lot of time working on Windows and *nix machines, so I appreciate how little (read: virtually none) time I spend maintaining my personal machines.

I would also argue that developers working on the OS X platform have a better sense of "usability". Take for example Cyberduck. ( Cyberduck | FTP, SFTP, WebDAV & Amazon S3 Browser for Mac OS X. )

It took my roughly 30 seconds to set it up for a co-worker who is only computer savvy enough to do basic emails tasks. Yet he now uploads / downloads files via FTP on a daily basis.

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13th July 2008, 17:17	#3 (permalink)
hanzo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 118	I've not experienced this, but then again I don't use shutdown ever. If you are looking to turn the system completely "off" to conserve power, but want a "faster" shutdown, you may want to try changing the default sleep pattern to "deep sleep". This isn't an option readily available from any of the SysPrefs, but there is a handy widget to do it for you. Deep Sleep You can also change this behavior from Terminal, but this accomplishes the same thing (and is much easier). Coming from a Windows background, Deep Sleep is reminiscent of Hibernate in the sense that it writes out the current state to hard disk. As such it takes a little bit longer than regular sleep, but I typically see it run for about 45 seconds. Booting back up alternates between faster than normal boot or longer than normal boot. Really depends on the systems state at shutdown. Your Mileage May Vary, Caveat Emptor, Beware of Dog, etc.

13th July 2008, 18:33	#5 (permalink)
fangpyre Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,107	Oops... I can hear footsteps coming this way. Alot of them.

13th July 2008, 20:15	#7 (permalink)
noixe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 314	umm, i duno wat ur@magnus, i've not experienced slowed shutdown on my blackbook (which was updated to leopard) OR my macbook air..; macbook air hardly takes 3 secs to shutdown, while the blackbook takes 7-8 secs. 140 secs is too mch :\| take it to iStyle or sumthing am5555, they shud know sumthing about it

14th July 2008, 00:57	#8 (permalink)
am55555 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	Isn't there any 'cleanup' software to check this out? I mean my MacBook is hardly 2 weeks old! What's not so impressive - I guess I was expecting things to be super dooper when moving to a Mac. Yes, Expose is cool, but I guess I would rather have a Mac user tell me what they like and then I can discover those and hopefully other joys! Don't get me wrong - I am not regretting it - it's just not been a WOW yet!

14th July 2008, 09:33	#9 (permalink)
fangpyre Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,107	Well if it is only 2 weeks old, there isn't anything to cleanup. The impressive thing about Macs isn't what it does, but how it does everything. Keep in mind there is a slight learning curve, so that will add to the frustration a bit. But everybody here is here to help.

14th July 2008, 09:43	#10 (permalink)
hanzo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 118	I think the "Wow" factor for me is just the amount of time I don't waste. I spend a lot of time working on Windows and *nix machines, so I appreciate how little (read: virtually none) time I spend maintaining my personal machines. I would also argue that developers working on the OS X platform have a better sense of "usability". Take for example Cyberduck. ( Cyberduck \| FTP, SFTP, WebDAV & Amazon S3 Browser for Mac OS X. ) It took my roughly 30 seconds to set it up for a co-worker who is only computer savvy enough to do basic emails tasks. Yet he now uploads / downloads files via FTP on a daily basis.