Microsoft's new "I'm a PC" adverts - *Made on a Mac*

[rushi]

Microsoft has launched their a new set of ads called I'm a PC. The ads are decent, but there's one problem: They were made on a Mac.

Originally Posted by ComputerWorld

Several digital images that Microsoft Corp. has posted on its Web site to trumpet its new "I'm a PC" advertising campaign were actually created on Macs, according to the files' originating-software stamp.

Four of the images that Microsoft made available on its PressPass site today display the designation "Adobe Photoshop C3 Macintosh" when their file properties are examined. The images appear to be frames from the television ads that Microsoft will launch later today.

I can't help but laugh. First there were those horrendous ads with Gates and Seinfeld. Now when get atleast get the advertisement right, they can't do the campaign right.

Sucks to be Microsoft.

[fangpyre]

LOL

Actually this has always been the case for Microsoft.
Since Macs dominate the artistic side of the market.
Most ad agencies, graphic designers, movie makers print houses, music makers, etc.. use Macs at one point of their production process, if not completely.

The new ads suck.
They get the message across, no doubt.
But its not something you would like to see.
It is creative, and has a few jokes here and there.
But they are mainly geek jokes, nothing mainstream.
Ask yourself this, would you send this one to your friends like you do a Mac ad?

I think they were going somewhere with the Sienfeld ads.
And then they blow it!!
I am really disappointed in Microsoft.
What a sec.

No, its pretty much what I expected from them.

[chefmerrick]

They always making a fool out of themselves.
Where is the originality in it.

[medopal]

even in ads they cant make it by themselves and used the same Apple idea "I'm a Mac", very disappointing!!

Microsoft is always using the same idea (more market share, more market share), watch Steve Ballmer presentations!!! Ok man we got it more market share, but that never means (more market share = better OS ever), except in case of iPods !!!

Poor Sienfield, hope they r not blaming him for their failure.

the ad should go like this (just to be honest with themselves)
- I'm a PC, and i sell fish and clean computer viruses as part time job.
- I'm a PC, and i design buildings but i dont know why Autocad keeps hanging

The ony honest one was, "I'm a PC, and Im kinda scared" hehehe, he is not scared of sharks. he is scared cuz the PC behind the (sharks radar) has crashed.

fang, sorry man i dont agree with u, its not creative at all, its at least ripping "I'm a Mac" slogan.

[hakka]

2 medopal

Anyway Microsoft the world leader in software, server, databases, development tools...name it. Whatever bull..t Steve J will spread Windows will dominate the market. Xp, Vista, ....they are everywhere. So be honest at least

And some points:

I'm Mac and have outdated games to play, because my hardware is not upgradable
I'm Mac and I pay 30-40% more for same programs that on PC
I'm Mac and I need specialy designed hardware to work with, including even basic mouse

I'm Mac and powerful BSD unix indside but not many of my users have any clue about it

P.S. After 15 years of Windows/DOS/Mainframe development i got mac. I do like Apple hardware but OSX somewhere is far behind even xp

[fangpyre]

It's clear you are still in the mainframe days, and "have no clue about it".

You are true about market share, there is no doubt about that.
But here are a few facts for you.
- Mac's don't require special hardware.
- They are NOT everywhere, Microsoft uses Sun for its web servers (and their ads)
- Software isn't more expensive on the Mac (though the hardware is)
- People pay 500% times extra for the entry level Benz compared to the entry level Kia
- Macs are upgradeable, however it does require a higher IQ to realize that you can open it since its put together tightly.
- Most criminals use Windows!!
- 6% of the world's population owns 59% of the world's resources.
- 6% of the world's computers are Macs!!
- Almost all zombie computers on the net are PCs.

Now...
Imagine a 5 year old having full control over a 600 pound gorilla.
The ultimate in computing is to be able to have the ultimate control with the least training or knowledge. That's OSX.

However, I would like to thank you for comparing OSX to XP, since its the only decent OS Microsoft ever made. But for you to really unleash the full potential of OSX, you will need to take a leap of faith and enter a username and password to Login. Since Macs can do more before you login than a PC in its entire lifespan.

Another thing nice about the Mac is you don't have to choose.
Since it can run everything, even other OSes in the background.

[medopal]

Originally Posted by hakka

2 medopal

Anyway Microsoft the world leader in software, server, databases, development tools...name it. Whatever bull..t Steve J will spread Windows will dominate the market. Xp, Vista, ....they are everywhere. So be honest at least

I was honest my friend, and i said Microsoft is always saying more market share, which i believe is a truth, but will never mean more market share = better OS, or software.

Just a small example (cuz u r really hiding behind that fact), here in Abu Dhabi i see Toyoto Corolla more than trees and people, while i see Golf GTI rarely, does that mean Corolla is better. maybe you will say YES, because everyone has it so it should be better, but naaa.

Another example from software, before going to OSs, lets keep it small, did u ever tried Firefox, Opera, or even Google Chrome, those browsers have gone way too far from IE, and they all have less than 30% of market share, does that mean IE is better than all??

Originally Posted by hakka

And some points:

I'm Mac and have outdated games to play, because my hardware is not upgradable
I'm Mac and I pay 30-40% more for same programs that on PC
I'm Mac and I need specialy designed hardware to work with, including even basic mouse

Well, ok then, why you got Mac if you want to play, even though i got Need For Speed Carbon, Call of Duty and lots of other games, just to prove to people that Mac can run these things, i still dont play anything on it. I simply dont want to waste my Duo Core and few gigs of rams on games, i have better things to do on my powerful Leopard.

Originally Posted by hakka

P.S. After 15 years of Windows/DOS/Mainframe development i got mac. I do like Apple hardware but OSX somewhere is far behind even xp

Oooooh man, you should be kidding man now, do you really mean Windows?? I have been (unfortunately) using Windows since 15 years, starting from Windows 3.11, until XP, and as a previous Windows programmer, I -my friend- can honestly tell you Leopard is way to better than any OS in the market now. (Its not the magical stick, but its the best)

Unfortunately again, i work on PC in my work, its a powerful machine (in hardware), with WinXP, if i keep it running 2-3 days in row, it will take like 20 minutes to wake up next morning and return to work, while my small Macbook has been on since few weeks and each time i wake it up it continues as i just turned it on.

Cuz u r saying XP is better, and you love it that much, i have good news for you:
- Windows will have a feature called Fast Search (in Mac terminology Spotlight), oooh sorry they got it in Vista but its not Fast!!!
- Windows will now have a Quick Look, oooh sorry again they ripped it in Vista but i dont know anyone who is still enabling it (you know since its two slow on a 2.4 GHz, and 2 gigs machine)
- Windows will try to rip Spaces (but will never make it like Leopard)
- Windows will try to rip Expose (but will call it "Microsoft Windows Ultimate Window Switcher"), but it will never be like Expose.
- Windows will try to make sleep and wakeup better (like Leopard), but will hide from you the "Closing applications, Saving settings, Logging off" dialogs to make it look faster.
- Windows will add something like Dashboard and widgets, oooh sorry my fault they already did in Vista, they are called Sidebar and "gadgets"!!!!
- Windows will try to copy Snow Leopard features before it comes out, but will never success, because Apple is always ahead in new features. One of the features they will try to rip is OpenCL.

The problem with Windows people, is that they never saw anything else, so they think Windows is the best, just like the Toyota Corolla guy who never used Cruise Control, so he thinks his car is the best.

Sorry for your time guys

[chefmerrick]

Wow, thanks medopal.
That was nice but i guess here none of us are doubting the capabilities of a mac.
the write up was good.

[hakka]

Heh, this boring forums get some life finally ))

P.S. fangpyre, give me some +++ for trafic generating, pls. kidding u

Indeed, nobody will play on mac = bad hardware or good hardware at killing prices for Macpro. So anyway its almost incapable of running any recent titile. Crossover is good try, but not yet good enough. VMWare+Parallels is just sign of weakness. )

Pal, you misundestood my post. I not blaming or starning holywar here. I just pointed some weak points in OSX. And its only mean that it needs more software.

I was pissed of to discover how little settings OSX has. Yeah...under the hood its xml, terminal, demons... but in windows xp/vista is much easy accesible. Also i get nearly shock to find that NO THEME support in OSX. It was basically one of the marketing points in Windows XP ad campain.

Installing/Uninstalling of software requre some work, some of the "bad" program left trash on disk, in settings and so on. Far from perfect registry database

U pointed some similar poins in Vista and OSX, yeah it might seems like but internally its very differently implemented. There is one website u can read it - its compare OSX and Vista feature against feature - Mac vs Windows Comparisons - MacvsWindows.com, Mac OS X Leopard vs. Windows Vista. I'm lazy to copy-paste all of this.

But a lot of things just not exists in OSX:

1. No good database application. Bento/FileMaker ? are u kidding
2. .Net support with ASP.Net/LINQ/Forms/Remoting and so on. Mono is in early days now.
3. Major Software companies first target Windows. Simply business pal Even Adobe now issues soft for windows first.
4. No good office/business releated software. yeah only good one from Microsoft. Also no SAP/Baan/Dynamics support ever planned. Because no touchscreen support in OSX its also mean no POS terminals )

I can continue....

Anyway I guess u got my point. It's not about blame and argue...its about discover the weak points and capitalize on it.

[medopal]

i can discuss each and every line of ur post and prove (not that its wrong), but that you are argumenting from Windows point of view, which all people think is the right thing (again, because market share)

i will say something else, did u ever tried Firefox or Opera, i will tell u something about them, they are Tab Browsing, yea yea i know IE 7 is. my point is, when they first introduced it, people was saying, how will i use it!!!, im used to mutliple windows. and now we see every browser has those tabs.

so the thing is, people at that time looked to Opera from IE point of view, becasue they thought its how things should be done BECAUSE thats how Microsoft do it. well no, its not.

same for Leopard, u r focusing on "weakness" points, which are Windows "strongness" points as u see them. Instead of that y dont u focus on strongness of both and then compare, y u didnt say anything about security, about ease of use, ease of learn, stability, software management, software integration ... etc

unfortunately, Microsoft "and lot of its fans" sorry, think Microsoft way is the only way, u r saying themes, did u ever thought why Microsoft introduced themes at the begining in Win 95 i think. simply cuz the Win graphical interface was toooo bad. and one of the very first themes people made was Mac theme!!!! hope that explains the idea.

even though they have thousands of themes, i never saw something like Genie effect!!

.Net support!! again Microsoft point of view, why u dont say Java support, actually im very pleased with Leopard support to Java, now using Xcode (Apple "free" development environment) u can easily create Java applications and make them look like any native Mac app.
I believe this one alone is enough to boost the amount and types of applications for the Mac, just keep an eye on open source communities and u will see what i mean.

business wise, well ok, i know all companies do that, because of the 90% of people using PCs, but im not a company, im just a person who prefer to use the most advanced and improved operating system.

i dont want to argument either, u r totally convinced Windows is better, and u have the right to think so. Im just sick of one thing (sorry i dont mean u), but the thing that upsets me is that people think Microsoft is like the god of software and operating systems, so they always compare to it. even companies that make new software make it like windows. Apple is not like that, Apple is simply Think Different. if u dont u can still be one of the 90% happy with thier "one and only" OS.

im an open source developer, and im optimist about it, open source will change a lot of things in the next few years, and Apple is totally aware of that.